Wednesday, November 30, 2011

SSF4 AE 2012 - What tier is Ryu going to be in?

I'm not going to go over the changes on Ryu. I'm here to tell you guys where I feel Ryu will stand against the other characters. Now this is going to sound like a bit of a rant, but please bare with me here.

From what I've heard back in a Japanese stream - or maybe from a random Japanese commentator -  Ryu was placed top tier (in the low to mids). This meant he was in the top tier but placed lower in that specific tier compared to others. Now here's the interesting part.

The only reason Ryu was at that tier was because of one person. That person was Daigo "the Beast" Umehara himself. This can be mere speculation and reasoning as he did well with the character back in the Super days. But what about now?

Can anyone else do such a thing as to alter the tier list as so? Is there anyone else willing to challenge the tier list and make Ryu better than where most people think he should be? There is only one answer to that.

I will. I'm not saying that I am the best Ryu out there and that my way is the correct way. Not at all. I am simply accepting the challenge.

If Daigo was able to make such an impact on the tier list with Ryu, why shouldn't I be able to? With hard work and determination, I believe that I can do what Daigo did in Japan. He challenged the tier list.

What do you guys think? Do you think Ryu should be put higher (or even lower) on the tier list? Do you think he stands a chance against the other top tier characters? Leave a comment below. I'm really interested to see what everyone thinks.


P.S. Always challenge yourself.


  1. Ryu is not top tier,
    Ryu players are.
    We can place him there if we work hard and overcome obstacles such as "tier lists"
    So it doesn't matter what tier lists dictate.

  2. Definitely Ryu players need to be top tier. Jeff Schaeffer talked about how they had tier lists, but Tomo would literally single handedly mess it up...similarly Daigo did the same thing with Ryu.

    I just feel that to play with Ryu at a high level, it may take more effort...imagine, Lamerboi said that before playing Guile, he played Ryu, but dropped him because he couldn't get his FADC to Ultra done, which as we know, is absolutely necessary to play Ryu at a high level. That's just a small example, and then you get to the one frame links needed to really make Ryu shine and you realise...whoa..a lot of practice room time is needed here...

    I also find that other high tier characters except Sagat have a better "safe" offensive/rushdown game (Fei, Yun). Its hard to punish them. I personally find that whoever is able to play the better offense usually wins.

  3. i feel like a ryu player has to be better than the opponent and work harder for the win against most of the characters. thats one of the reason i appreciate and love to watch great ryu players like Laugh and XsK_Samurai or Air!
    and thanks for the tips fpr the fadc, your tips are really helping me a lot whith my game! no bullshit i really got a lot better :D really appreciate it man thanks!

  4. @Dejan - May I use the first two paragraphs of your comment as a post? I'd like to analyze that if you don't mind.

    @Brunu Santos - You are more than welcome! :)

  5. I am new to SSF4 (been playing for just 3 months now) and I can't DP > FADC > Ultra very well yet.. but that's what training room is for. But I'm glad to read the commments and know I'm not the only one who is/has struggled with that.

  6. @jtl08 - Just in case you didn't catch it: Make sure you end in the down forward motion when doing the FADC => Ultra. Otherwise, keep practicing and it will be like second nature. :)

  7. That really helped out a lot! I re-examined how to do the DP and it turns out I was taught wrong. I was taught to "walk forward and throw a quick fireball". So I was basically doing: F,D,DF,F leaving me in an award position. But now that I'm ending with DF (now doing F,D,DF), it makes it so much easier to FADC into the Ultra. thanks for the awesome advice.

  8. XsK, you can use my post if you want